Cougar vs Dires

Can any1 temme wch stats gud for a DE. Either a str/dex + 1 to Wis de r a Con DE. I have a str/dex +1 Wis DE at lvl 48. Is it fine with this guy r shud I remake him. Dont worry abt the lvl. I jus wanna enjoy the game. It doesnt make a diff. to me deleting this char.

Happy Hunting!!

Svat

Yall make me laugh. If you are going for a cougar mage your best bet is what I stated above, adding Char last and reaching 25char at 72. But if you play 2 hrs a day, I wouldnt even consider this an option. Itll take you about 7years to reach 72... A 60+, or even 55+ character takes a lot of time to get. If you are a casual player I would go with a more casual play character and dont even think about cougar.

I use the stats above 18con/wis 16int. It levels a little slower, but the extra mp and hp is well worth it. Int can be made up later, hp/mp can not. Its level 50 and does fine.

wow!! this is way better than debate class!!

*cosa grabs the popcorn* x.x

I agree.

Let the man have his cougar!!! :P
Besides, in 7 years all items will be free, because of the bots or bots will be legal or Lineage US will be no more ;)

I disagree, if you dont have the best gear, lvling a 18con/wis 16int is painfull. I wouldnt recommend it to anyone who play casual. I also thought 18con/wis was a good choice, untill I went to TOI when I was 49, and my TU didnt do a thing, I had to stay in FV and the lower TOI. You can always get more hp/mp by delvling, with a better stats at a high lvl.

If you wanne get high and you cant play much, choose a character that deals allot of dmg in a small amount of time!

I still think 18wis/int and 16con is the best stats for casual players. With 18wis/int you have great heals, so you wont even notice you have a bit less hp.

v.v yes and sk8 u going to help me lvl my lvl31 noob mage v
yes im telling u.. not asking u o.o

True, you can hunt anywhere an int mage can. Only I had a hard time landing a TU with 16int base(+2int from ammy/intbook=18int total) in TOI, you waste allot of mp.

I just say, if you play casual and still want to lvl a bit, go 18int. I would have done it, if I knew I was gonne play casual.

And its also personal preference, as you said. You could have allot of fun with 18int and lvl fast, or you dont mind waiting a bit longer and go 16int.

Btw, I got all my characters con, so I know con is very good for the long run. I just dont want people to think that con is the best option, or think its as fun as other stats. Its maybe wise to pick con, but not for everyone. You can often have more fun without con and lvl higher than you would with con ;)

I personally like 18 con / 18 wis base. Now that I hit 52 I have 18 con 18 wis 18 int base. I wanted the extra 2 int to help on spells and TU rates. From here out I will max wis at 59 then max int out at 66 =] My goal is 70+ but I am not sure when this will ever occur, and I am still unsure of what stats I would add after 66.

Dires or Cougar? Both are way bitey, so I'd summon an Esc Scroll. ^.^

Chee!

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BearClan, still hibernating but that *may* change...

BTW am plannin to start a Mage with the stats 18 CON/CHA. Wat u ppl think abt this combo.

Happy Hunting!!

Svat

Your base stats wont go futher than 25, even if you drink a elixir. But if you have 24 base int and put on a int ammy (which makes your int stats 25) and drink a int elixir, your int will become 26.

18 CON/CHA is very challenging, yes! But good, I dont know. You will have good con, and you can summon many mops, but you would lack the vital int and mp a mage lives on. Expecialy int, you will have a hard time healing you and you summons, and you will be out of mp in notime. Unless you and your summons wont get hit allot. You cant rely on your dmg with magic, cause your int is only 12 base.
I got a 18 INT/CHA mage myself, the 18int compromises with the low mp.

If you want to make a 18 cha mage, I would recommend dividing the rest of the stats between con/wis and int. Something like 14 CON/WIS/INT. It is hard to make a good stats for higher lvls if you choose 18cha at the start.

Hope you figure out a good stats, that works for you :D

Oreo has a 18con/18cha mage, I think, and he's made good use of it (although not sure if he is still playing). Basically, it's a pain to level, but it can be done (since he apparantly made it to lvl 52 at least). However, as I said, pain to level.

Thnx for the update. No problem for lvlin. Let it take its own time. But once go 50 n above will this stats hlp coz aftr tat we can increase Int points. R shud I go with 18Int/Cha mage. Lower lvls doesnt matter coz i cant survive like it forever. The only thin I am bothered is aftr gettin high lvl will this b gud. Wch one do u ppl suggest 18 INT/CHA or 18 CON/CHA. To answer u Rudy, I am not splittin the point. Any 1 of the above stats????????

Happy Hunting!!

Svat

18 con/cha gives more HP, and if you want to make a charisma mage and want to take advantage of it before you get to high levels, and you don't mind it taking ages to level, I suggest doing that.

I would choose 18 INT/CHA, because 18 CON/CHA would just take to long >.<

I would hate to level a mage to 72 with 25 CHA base at the end, only to get schooled by a level 60-65 elf. Return to Nature, for the win. Just make an elf.

If you want it for the cougar alone, you'd not start with 18 cha, and int/wis or int/con would level far faster and just add the cha points when levelling. I would assume anyone starting with that much cha just wants to use 3-4 summons most of the time.

As I already said, I jus need hlp in choosing either of the stats mentioned. lemme tell ya the reason. I have a Con Elf at 48. A Int/Wis 16 Con mage at 47 a Str/Dex DE at 48. Tried these stats. Jus wanted to try a summon mage to c how hell b at 48 with 4 buggies. Then Dires n then bears n so on. I know I can add CHA l8r. But I cant say Ill ever reach 72. But now I can hunt with 4 summons atleast. I am jus gonna play char. for fun.

Happy Hunting!!

Svat

i not a mage but id prolly summon a cougar... just to look super uber x.x with a cougar right next to me x.x

Well.. it is more difficult than that. Actually...

It takes 34 charisma to summon Cougar. That is max base charisma and every charisma item available in Epi6. Including many that arent available now.

With 34 charisma you can summon 5 Direwolves. Also, Cougar is strong, but not as strong as the boss. 5 Direwolves would probably kill faster but that is 5 monsters following you which is horrible in tight hallways and passages/doors.

If you can get level 72 and 34 charisma then I would go with Cougar just to show it off.

However, you can also summon 5 Dire Bears which are stronger than the Wolves.

I think these are the items you need to get to 34 cha:
曼波帽 +1
曼波大衣 +2
艾鍊或冥戒 +3
海斗或紅斗 +1
漆黑水晶球 +2

I can't translate them well(i get: "Jet black Wednesday"), so maybe someone else knows what the names are in english?

*Btw is there a way to edit your 1st post? So I can change 25 into 34 cha? Dont wanne confuse people who read this :P

v maybe ill keep lving my noob mage x.x (lvl 30)

Not exactly... Your best bet, if your true desire is this and only this... Is to start out with a typical mage stats for long term... 18wis/con or 18wis/int or whatever your choice is... but for sure 18wis for the mp to keep up with that many summons. You can put the rest into whatever you want. Also, remember that you have to be level 72, so it doesnt matter if you get 25char at lvl 60 or if you get it at 72.. So you can add the stats you want, leaving char for last.

Personally I would do this if my sole intention was to summon cougar... 18wis/18con 16int. Then at level 51-55 I would add int. So at level 55 I would have 18con/wis and 21int then with items thats 23-25int(depending on gear). From that lvl on, add charisma. At level 72 you will have 25 base charisma and still good hp/mp and still strong spells and good TU rate.

Also, the other char items currently available are the Mambo items (hat and coat.) But more are coming.

(cosa taking notes o.o)

Like Sk8 said, your best bet would be a 18wis/con or 18wis/int mage.
I've made a cha mage in the past, with the stats: 18int, 18cha (18int to para DI bosses, back when mgems dropped in owl). You get allot of drops with 4 summons, but I never got passed lvl 48 with him. The summons drain all your exp, and without them I couldnt do much with 12wis/con.

18cha mages are pretty good if you cant afford good items and want to get cash fast, but dont expect to go 50+ with them in a short time.

True, 18con/wis does have more hp. I have a lvl 49 18con/wis 16int mage myself. Hard to lvl, you need to pump allot of mp into spells to do the same dmg as someone with 18int base stats. And going to TOI 31F+ your TU wont help much either.
I rather have had a 18int mage, even though the con is a bit less, you can lvl twice as fast ;) You can always put in con later, and delvl if you want to get more hp.

17con/int 18wis sounds good.

And what about 17con/wis and 18int?
With 16con you get an average HP gain of 5.5, 17con is 6.5 and 18con you get 7.5hp. 17con is a nice middle of the road stats with an avarage 6.5hp gain a lvl. I think 17con/wis isnt such a bad idea.

Ugh, its getting harder to decide which stats is good if you dont want a traditional stats @.@