Temple of Shadows

Thier are 2 npcs in the ToS .. you will want to talk to the one on the far right(NW) of TOS

once you get to the 12000 Karma? the NPC on the top right hand corner of Shadow Temple (The Varlok one) would give you a different dialogue instead of the standard "Grrr" Dialoge

Once you get the dialog you can either go to SOE and find the npc to make the earings or give 10 Frags of Souls to get you teleported directly to the NPC which Is alot easier and will save you alot of time and grief

you can find a post about it on my blog in the archives titled "Dancing Earrings at last!"

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karma is better hunted at SoE but if u have a good heal slave u can solo but still its tuff

You have been warned !!!

with the karma situation, for your first level earrings youll need 30% xp of lev 49 xp rate only Tos mops .( 49-65 is same % of xp to level each level.) all i did was check the varlock npc every .50 % till he talked to me and i got my -1 ac earring. Then from then on i kept track of every .0001 % that i hunted there. the reason i did this was to find what numbers were real for the next earring level of karma. remember it cost 10 fragments to teleport dirrectly to the earring npc and that can get costly in fragments. the lev 2 earring takes another 40% on top of the original 30% . lev 3 by my calculations takes 135% of ToS mops xp. now i have hunted many places during that time, after i reached the calculated 135% xp just in ToS, i went and teleported to the npc for the lev 3 and he was uncooperative. so if my calculations are correct at some point i killed mops that take away karma. peraps theyll have a karma register bar in epi 6.

we certainly need more information as regards the karma issue what mops take away and what give.

sometimes there are aspects of this game that are fun to discover and experiment with but i feel this one needs more of a specific guide and a better way to keep track of karma. i feel that w/o the better info people wont bother doing the quest. and there is also the point of the exponential karma requirement which is a major turn off for players.

My char is lev 70 and i have a hard time with it, how do you think those whom are not 70 feel?

GL and good hunting

Moli

I know someone who has gotten nearly 40% in the ToS, but still does not have the first level karma.

I was wondering the other day if the Demon class mops we were killing during that event had karma going the other direction.

It's the only reason I can think of that she would still be unable to talk to the NPC after gaining so much experience in teh temple.

You would think, however, that gaining 40% solo in the temple should be enough if nothing else is at play.

Well, maybe it's that some of the mops give a different proportion of karma relative to level than do the other mops there. That would explain the radical differences from one person to the next.

You would think, but everything there other than Chaos himself gives 2 karma. Also, if someone hunting inside manages to kill Chaos 5-10 times during that 30% gain, they would obviously need to kill far less of the shadow mops to reach the karma %. Which would lower their overall exp gain for the same amount of karma gain. For instance, Molindar. I am sure he gets the 100 Karma from Chaos many of the times he fights him. And I am sure he fought him 10+ times in the time it took him to get his earrings. That 100 karma from Chaos, would mean 50 less ToS mops you need to kill. 10 Chaos' would mean 500 less ToS monsters. Which that alone, would mean a big exp% difference.

Also, different monsters in ToS give different amounts of Exp, but they all give the same karma. Thats why I stand by not basing your entire measurement on Exp gain. As it will be different for EVERY person. It is good for a rough approximation and to help you kind of figure out how much you got but its not a tell-tell for how much karma you have.

Did she make any trips into SoE?

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Of course it will be different from person to person, dpeending on what mops u hunt vs the xp u get.

one thing i did read was that not all mops in tos have the same karma value. like the followers of chaos that die so easy have 2 karma, the lower priests of chao have 2 the winged higher level priests have 3 the horsemen have 5. This is part of what im talking about when i say we need a more difinitive guide, too much speculation. i found some people hunting in party took much longer to get the required karma level to get earring.

One of the horrors i discovered while hunting on lev 2 is that the fragments drop rate is less and only comes from the priests of death and death himself. but not from the followers or priests of chao that spawn on 2f for me that suxxors. i like to hunt there but the main benefit there is faster xp and infrequent drops, very infrequent, oh and bragging rights, but that isnt worth much.

GL

Moli

I just know I will not have level one earrings for quite some time x.x

As sk8 said, everything in TOS 1st floor has 2 karma except chaos who has 100 karma
you can only gain more karma in SOE

and its better to COUNT how many you killed rather then looking at your exp..

kill around 4500 TOS mops and check or 6000 and check for lvl 1 (not too sure exactly how much it is)

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