In a post on the NCsoft Lineage message boards, Fracas revealed his plans to implement the "Dual Pink" pvp system on the Live servers in the near future:
Ultimately I feel it's better for the product, and thus all of us, to adopt the new(er) pvp system that NCK supports and updates. With that comes duel pink, a mechanic that although different, works just fine and doesn't take long to get used to.
He also provided insight towards hell being removed and the possibilities of a future server-merge.
As for the word "eventually", I understand it's a crappy word. I have to use it though because there are some other things I want to investigate before I turn it on.
Ah, and Hell. Yes, Hell. I mentioned before I'd be open to disabling Hell on Dep, and I'm still up for it. I would like to wait until after the 2x exp event to change this though.

Good news :)
Good news :)
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YAY! No More Hell would be
YAY! No More Hell would be nice, the server merge tho is a no way, then it will be a 110% lag factory and I know it is just to "Save Money" but ewwwwwwwww.....
the only server merge i see,
the only server merge i see, is loa being offered 1 time deal to transfer to dep or ken. just mho ^^
i've said all along NC will
i've said all along NC will merge all 3 servers.. typical of a company that does not think they work for the customer base.
just like a company who chooses to have the whole community represented but the same 15 people that are allowed to use the message boards..
WAKE UP NC!
you work for us... not the other way around.
-Tonk
tell us how you really feel
tell us how you really feel tonk O.o
I like the idea of the
I like the idea of the removal of hell, but I do not like the idea of having dual pink! I just have a hard time with going pink when you are defending yourself.
Its a good system. Less
Its a good system. Less grief, trust me
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I can see some good points
I can see some good points but the bad points seem to stand out more to me than anything.
But Fracas, when I tell
But Fracas, when I tell someone to go to Hell, they will have no place to go. ;-)
And for the record, I still hate the server merge concept. A lot of us have characters on all three servers already, and I would hate to have to pick and choose which of my characters would cease to exist.
Instead of merge the server,
Instead of merge the server, I would rather have some sub server under each one. When this one lagging so bad or not being stable...I can switch to another one!
LITO!!! BRING IT!
LITO!!! BRING IT!
OK..... what's duel pink?
OK..... what's duel pink? O.o
or dual even!
or dual even!
You were correct, its
You were correct, its 'Duel'
But I will let one of the PvP vets field this question.
Prominence.. do the honors please.
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Before I start to explain,
Before I start to explain, If you are on KEN server, you have NOTHING to worry about as this will not affect you!
I would think its Dual (meaning 2) Pink
-----------Currently on a pvp server ---------, if you initiate an attack on a lawful person, and you urself are lawful or Chaotic, your name will turn pink for initiating a fight.. However if you are a Lawful person and initate an attack on a chaotic person you will not go pink since u are justified in killing a chaotic person w/o any penelty. Also, If you hit a pink person you will stay blue and if u are killed by the pink person, the pink person will become chaotic.. HOWEVER if the blue person manages to kill the pink person, the blue person will NOT go chaotic since the pink person started it.(thats why he was pink in the first place)
-----------------And now for Dual Pink >>>
If Player A and Player B and Player C are on the field
If A hits B ... A will be pink (as it currently is on a pvp server)
If B hits A back ...B will ALSO be pink (Which is not how it currently works)
If A and B are both pink... due to hitting each other.. and one of them kills the other (No one will go Chaotic (meaning no major penelty for killing in this situation for the killer, however the person that died will still lose a %)
If Player C joins in and hits either A or B... C will also go pink .....meaning no one will have a chance of going chaotic if someone gets killed in all this ..fracas..
~~ The above is what I know for certain ~~
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Now Im going to guess that If Player D (a healer) comes along and heals either A B or C (who at this time would be pink) .. he will also go pink for healing a pink player.. (I should test this on test server but i rarely have time to log on and find ppl to do it with me)
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Please also see the comment
Please also see the comment I made below Fracas's comment ~
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I thought it was Dual as in
I thought it was Dual as in 2(2 people going pink) , instead of duel as in a fight or challenge. I guess both could apply.
Roo has it as Dual, but
Roo has it as Dual, but Fracas has it as Duel.
I think its Duel, cause when you Duel, you go pink.
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This latest post was the
This latest post was the first time I spelled it as "duel" since, well, everyone else in the thread was doing it. We all know what we're talking about though so I say spell it however you want. :)
As for what it is, it's a change to the "when you turn pink" mechanic. Simply put, it will match what occurs in Lineage2 when players engage each other in PvP. They have a chart you can view here that helps explain it (replace "karma gain" with "gain pk count").
Something that i just
Something that i just figured out based on the chart
~you can defend your self against Chaotic people w/o going pink and stay lawful the whole time.. its only if u attack another lawful or pink person that you will go pink, in lineage terms
So am also gona guess that you will not go pink if you heal another pink person since its not recognized as an aggressive action.
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This will have some impact
This will have some impact on Ken server, but very minimal in the grand scheme of things. It will effect fights in siege and combat zones outside of sieges to the extent that more people will be pink. That doesn't REALLY matter because there is nothing more to be gained or loss from killing or being killed by a pink name character.
The minimal impact comes into play in the form of difficulty healing, etc.
I'm pretty sure that in all
I'm pretty sure that in all zones on Ken you don't go pink anyway.
The only way of going pink is by whacking someone's summon/pet.
You can go pink for other
You can go pink for other reasons on Ken.
You go pink at any time in a
You go pink at any time in a combat zone outside of a siege for any aggressive act. Maple, Cancel, Slow, etc
You go pink for mapling even outside of combat.
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Which would, in theory, mean
Which would, in theory, mean if you heal someone who just went pink for mapling someone you will also go pink and will only be able to be healed by control clicking.
based on the chart, that
based on the chart, that wouldnt happen since healing is not considered an aggressive action,
Today im gona see if my bp members wana test it out.. if not It would be nice
if some of you guys could meet up wit me on test w/ lvl 5 chars since all we need is to hit/heal and test it out.. everyone being a mage class would probably be ezest to test out
Last post for now, I wont check board till around 6 30pm eastern today =)
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Does test currently have
Does test currently have dual-duel pink still?
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Yeah, it's had it for a few
Yeah, it's had it for a few months now.
Well, I am on Ken Server and
Well, I am on Ken Server and do go "pink" for trying to maple bots! HaHa!
Thank you all for your responses.
I looked up duel = Combat between 2 persons
Then I looked up dual = Consisting of two parts or elements
O.o
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Jesy didn't believe me!
Jesy didn't believe me! Thats what I said in an earlier comment =]
I tried to find people to
I tried to find people to test with me yesterday but my bp members didnt have test installed and the people that i asked on global didnt want to either..(well 1 wanted to, he told me to go meet on test and he never came -o-)
I have a lvl 5 Mage w/ heal and ebolt ready to test w/ someone!
I think ill need to hunt for a few res scrolls too to test out the killing and rezing aspect of the dual pink but other then that I just need someone to test w/ and the people on global that were shouting at that time on test either didnt respond back to me or would just say "??"
So anyone up for the challenge.. we can either test it later today (post 7pm eastern) or sometimes this weekend.
You can either let me know here or send a mail to Prominence on LoA.
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Just tested it with a level
Just tested it with a level 19 mage and level 5 knight, Knight went pink on mage, mage healed the knight and did not receive pink...looks like fights will be who has the most heal bots now : (
knew that would happen, you
knew that would happen,
you should test killing a pink person and rezing the person to see if he still stays pink or not..
another test would be to both go pink and 1 walk off the screen and walk back in and see if he appears pink or not to the one that was stationary.
last test would to go chao on 1. and hit the chao and see if u go pink.. in the new system.. the lawful person wouldnt go pink if he hit a chao.
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I may be able to depending
I may be able to depending on my schedule! I will let ya know either ya.
One of those boring days i
One of those boring days i went to cehck gtv (i wish gtv would give ya exp :P) and most were bot characters x.x so i tried mapling hehe and i mapled 75% of gtv lol was fun and was pink for a while hehehe
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Waste of maples :P but the
Waste of maples :P
but the addition of this system would mean that you could only go chao for killing a blue character correct? so that would eliminate chaomaking right? and if both answers are yes....then by all means add this
People say hindsight is 20/20. I say, who the heck has eyes in their hindparts?
Fire Kitty is watching you! So be nice!
You will only go chao if u
You will only go chao if u attak a blue person who doesnt fight back and dies..
if anyone hits a pink person.. they will also go pink meaning that if either were to die.. no one would go chao..
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I think duel pink is such a
I think duel pink is such a great idea. I think the new magic system is a so-so idea. I dont like the spell not stacking stuff. I also dont like how a mage wont really be able to be strong alone since he can cast 2 erupts in that 1.5 seconds and the 2nd wont be doing much damage. I only think its a good dea with destroy really. I dunno.
I think duel pink shoulda been on live server couple months ago. Dunno whats taking so long. I play a de most the time so the magic one seems fine but sometimes im mage and itll suck than.
I say no to both systems!!
I say no to both systems!! =]
I say yes to both systems
I say yes to both systems =]
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Bah you! hehe
Bah you! hehe
actually after thinking it
actually after thinking it over, i really dont like the magic update. Duel pink hell ya but the magic update no. Cause really its so not fair to mages. Now 1v1 a mage cant kill you ppl will just venz. after update it will be even worse. The only real eason this would be good is so that 5+ destroy mages dont come out of invis and destroy you. Other than that, this update is REALLY not needed. Its no different than 5 de's standing next to sombody in invis and poping out and all hitting them (de's who can do 100+ a hit easily) thats even worse than mages and the only real difference there is that the de just has to walk beside the target. Not much of a task if you ask me. Not to mention they can final burn you in the same fashion which would probably be changed anyways.
On top of the major and unnecessary nerf to mages, it will bring the whole stacking problem. That is really horrible. having to recast holy or moving accel or use braves and hastes that sucks big time. So not worth the bad things the update already brings for mages.
I think the only people who like this update are melee characters who would do anything to nerf a class other than their own.
This update is a very bad idea. It would be much better to bring duel pink first to live. Keep this update away. Mabye just on test. Than if its really great after like 6 months on test, bring it to live if its good.
They way theymake it sound is as if this wont be on test long befor it hits live. Bring duel pink first thats what majority of server wants. only like 10% of server wants this magic update. Its no good.
wrong thread for the magic
wrong thread for the magic update~
Duel pink is coming when episode 6 goes live
-fracas
Source = http://boards.lineage.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=656066&Main=655993#P...
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damn fracas you suck. JK but
damn fracas you suck. JK but really why the hold up on duel pink. Everyone loves it, your planning to put it in, ep 6 is at least 6 months away..... IF your going to do that than DEFINATELY wait for this magic update to come with episode 6 too. That would be so horrible to add it now. That would be adding something that nobody wants now and adding something everyone wants never. Ill be so mad T.T