PTS Publish 8.28.07

Holy Fracas this is a good update o.o

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Now that my excitement has passed..

I think the Tshirts solves the whole knight vs de debate lol

What do you say Sk8 o.o

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I have real issues with this update ... particularly the bagging of consumables.

This is effectively eliminating all the draw backs of the magic update for every class except for mages.

The T-shirts are excellent additions assuming they do not "absorb" magic damage.

If they do absorb magic damage, this is a classic example of a patch that will be outdated by future NCK updates.

I'm so beyond disappointed that you just nerfed your own nerf on everyone else cept mages. Is it that you'd like me to stop playing my mage altogether after i've spent the greater part of the last 2 years leveling to a respectable level. It is like you fricken people watch my progress and choose to nerf based on my progress. 2weeks after i finally got Summon spellbook it went from summoning 8 bbs to 2. After struggling for months to lvl, once i reach lvl 51 and 75% you finally decide to implement Fire Archer Poly. Then when I finally get to 52, DE poly has been nerfed so that it has a huge delay upon casting. I add wisdom to my Elf so that she can regen better so you nerf Clear Mind so it only adds 3 wis instead of 5. There are so many examples of this, that it's thoroughly pissing me off.

And now that I've finally reached 55 on my mage you nerf the Flock outta my fighting capabilities, when I have players who have been specifically griefing me and my friends for years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS!!!! YOU SUCK SOOO MUCH IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY!!!

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Cainna

Can we expect other bosses drop rates to be looked at in the near future as well?

Titan belt maybe?

AQ Wings?

Ice Queen items? (Staff/dress/shoes etc)

Beleth/Bapho items?

DK Sword?

KV Sword?

Demon Staff?

Coi?

Lich staff? (ok, I made that one up)

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It'd be nice if Fracas could tweak the first T-Shirt from Knight only to Royal/Knight only, leaving the 2nd and superior T-Shirt Knight only as someone posted on forums. Royals need all the help they can get.

Cool!

It just seems like the more you nerf, the more you have to nerf.
I, for one, am all for changes. But, why do I feel as if something is not right?
Oh, maybe it has to do with all the bells and whistles in game that do not work...say, spell timers, broken cells, pet hp bar delays, etc etc etc.

Rather than react to ppl who are unhappy with their selection of character and stats because another class "can beat the tar outta them," why don't you pay attention to those of us who are unhappy with the crumbling infrastructure of the game. Oh, silly me, we will wait til the bridge collapses and then focus our attention on what we should have done.

And, where in Jupiter's balls is it written that there has to be balance between the classes? I thought this was a role-playing game. Each class was specifically designed to have its advantages and disadvantages. The more you nerf, the more you blur those lines.

Next discussion up will arise from the mage ranks: Hey! Now that you nerfed our attack ability and increased everyone else's defensive abilities against our spells, we need a special spell to cast to protect us from the beating we are going to get from knights and dark elves.

And, consider this. This all stems from an attempt to fix an alleged unbalance in the game. As a result, we are getting fixes to fix the problems caused by the fixes that were designed to fix the fixes....

Kinda like getting on medication for depression: take med a for depression...take med b to curtail side effects created by med a, take med c to counter side effects of med b, take med d to counterbalance harmful internal chemistry caused by med c, take med e to relieve physical discomfort from taking med d...and guess what? A side of effect of med e is....yup!...depression.

You had a pretty good game going here when I started playing. Since then you have neglected, nerfed, and negated that game to a bot-ridden, hacker-infested whine fest of gimme gimme gimme, Rather than build an addition to the house, why not fix the plumbing and structure?

Oh also, please move the drop rate of firey-coal out of FV since mac users can't hunt there effectively until you fix the bug o.o

So you posted the other threads "A Truly Magical Update" and "Are you happy with the proposed changes to magic?" just to pretend like you were going to follow our input? From what i read the majority of the comments about this new system were negative. Most people i have heard from are against this update, yet you are stuffin it down our throats anyway? I know it is only on the test server, but that just shows me you all are determined to post this update as soon as you can figure out how to not piss off too many people. The people have spoken and most of us say BOOOO to the new changes!!

Nice updade except a few problems i tihnk.

1, those t-shirts should be WAY harder to craft. They are increadible. 6 extra ac AND damage absorbtion. That should be WAY harder to craft thats way too damn easy. Try like 10 fiery coal and mabye 200 steel. Or add some other requirements. I think the second one should be for 50+ and the lower one for 30+. I know that its put in because knights need some help here but that doesnt mean they should be very easy to craft. A +4 of the strong one is better AC than any ts that any knight is using right now alone. +5 which everyone will have will be an extra 2 ac for anyone who even had +9 which is really expensive already. most stronger ppl use +7-8 and thats gona be an extra 3-4 ac and it will craft so easyly. Add more adena to it like 1m cost, 100 or 1000 steel ( many ppl have a build up sicne theyre rarely ever used for anything), make it like 5 or 10 fiery coal and make it 50+ for the fortified t-shirt. Its such a great item which is too easy to aquire. At that rate, theres gonna be +8-9s in no time which are going to be increadible. 13-15 ac tshirts. And they get to sell the 7-9 tshirts they using now and use the money on improving something else. Its way too easy to get.

On the other hand you have a junk item that hand of the reaper, which is so hard to get. It really sucks too.. +5mp is useless so dont count that, its basicly 1 ac which cant be safely enchanted and +1 wis. What will a mage or a de want that for other than to add to part of a regen set which a de wont need and wont really help a mage too much. +1 wis wont help you regen alot. On top of that the only way to get it is off grim? You need to switch how hard it is to get the glove and that tshirt around. It makes no sence right now. Knights are getting a SUPER tshirt (which they deserve) SO easily and mage and de gets a junk item that was a waste of time for NC to even create. Add some stats to the glove. Make it enchantable. Make it +5mp regen instead of +5 mp at least. No need for a de to use it cause they dont use regen items anyways. NOBODY will use this as a main item. Only mage will use it when he stops to regen just for the +1 wis to help him regen a tiny bit per tick. That glove seriously either needs to be changed stats, or need to be ALOT easier to get. Make it worth using at the very least or just dont add it to take up space.

Other than those 2 things, great update.

oh also as roo pointed out, with that aoe spell on the lesser dragon, that might not be a good idea because if it hits a mop that you havent turned to yet, the mop is going to turn on it and its easily going to die. Also i wonder how itll work in pvp witht hat aoe spell. In combat, normal, siege zones.

oh and also as the other guy pointed out, princes could always use some love. I mean if you look at things from like LOTR which alot of lineage is taken from, the princes and kings are like the strongest guys. Lineage princes suck they should be really strong. almost comparable to knights i think. They should be able to use these items as well.

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hmm, even from a dark elf's point of view i do agree to these t-shirts. Chief to your post i dont think it should be 50+..Dark elfs get Double break at 45 so i feel it is fare. Besides the whole point of these t-shirts are to make knights the (tank) again...
I also feel that a Prince should get this item if only the reinforced tshirt. They do kinda need more defense. And for the item bags...Maybe consider it holding pots also o.O , i know that seems kinda crazy but Elfs and Mages can solo one spot for so long while us Knights and Dark Elfs have to escape and always go to town and get pots.

P.S. TY! for not nerfing dark elfs or taking Uncanny dodge away!
P.S.S. Increase Double Break back to 1.2k seconds lol...

Nice update Fracas. Love for Knights ^_^. I've not seen NC doing so much in my 5 years playing Lineage as they have done in the last 1 year. If you like everything easy go play Maple Story. We all have our fair share of disappointing moments but there are still super high levels on all servers. Why? Because they are dedicated and determined at all cost despite nerfs here and there to make it. So either stay and fight or run and whine.

Keep up the good work on improving the gameplay. It's tough but you can never please everyone.

Cheers!

There is only one way to put this:
DAM NICE!
and THANKS!

Congratulations, Fracas.

With this one big, wonderful update you have managed to swing the public opinion of your mage nerf by giving back everything that every other class was going to lose in the update.

Of course elfs, royals, dark elfs and knights are going to love this now. Mages get the shaft and you relent and cancel out all the bad for the other classes to rally the majority to your cause. Of course mages who healbot, especially if they are slave characters run by a tank, are going to like it. They can holy walk up and get on with their hunting that much faster.

So I was thinking yesterday, as I went ahead and dropped my drawers in anticipation of this update ... since this just keeps getting worse and worse for mages, how else might we be able to take it.

I have a few thoughts.

1. Wouldn't it be great if the new tames are actually BETTER than a couple of dire wolves? That way the biggest advantage a mage has in hunting could be completely eliminated because everyone would have the option of running around with something better.

2. Why don't we just come out and say what we mean here. "Mages, get your butts back there and healbot." Take away all the attack (won't be worth using in PvP anyway) and curse spells (most of them never have been worth using in PvP anyway) and leave only buffs, defenses spells and heals.

3. How about we make it so mages only lose a random stat point each time they die?

4. Let's have the bagger make it so braves, essence and wafers all weight NOTHING then let's triple the weight of magic gems and greater blues.

5. Why not disease, weakness, paralyze, freeze and weapon break COMPLETELY useless in non-ganking situations by giving each of them a 10 magic requirement and putting a delay on 300 seconds on each of them?

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haha thats an awesome picture =].

First, what does Svarog mean?

Second, did anyone see the post fracas made on testing forums? I agree to remove the damage absorption from the first t-shirt as it wont be used as much as the fortified t-shirt and will just be used as an ingredient piece to make the next shirt, give it some use so that Royals can use it without the damage absorption.

~Royal Love~

No, let princes have a unique t-shirt if anything. They should not use this particular one. Let them have one that has +1cha or something =] with lets say 2 base ac or something.

so if fiery coal are not droping in fv anymore..
where will they drop?
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oh and when can we expect this on ken?
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