Nominations are now closed and we're ready to reveal this years competitors...
Elf: Male - Ken Rauhel's Nycros
Elf: Female - Ken Rauhel's Jesy
Knight: Male - Lands Of Aden's L3g3nd
Knight: Female - Depardieu's OrangeCrush
Mage: Male - Depardieu's 0Merlin0
Mage: Female - TIEBREAKER - VOTE NOW
DarkElf: Male - TIEBREAKER - VOTE NOW
DarkElf: Female - TIEBREAKER - VOTE NOW
Royal: Male - Ken Rauhel's Justifier
Royal: Female - TIEBREAKER - VOTE NOW
Congratulations to those listed above - they'll be going through to the next round.
For the tie-breakers, we'll be announcing the successful candidates next week - so go vote!!!
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v.v Gratz to all the
v.v
Gratz to all the winners!!!
"The only friends that matter are the ones you can call at 4am."
www.crystaljeanelf.blogspot.com
Except for Anju, of
Except for Anju, of course... ;)
Anju is a Kirby.
Congrats all! If someone
Congrats all!
If someone deserved the title 'Player of the year!' then it's Justifier!
dunno almost any of them
dunno almost any of them o.O
we should have a list of people that were nominated originally and let the players decide from the start... and if thats everyone that was nominated on the vote now and people already listed.... there needs to be a better way of getting people nominated or more people on that list whether its fan sites, in game communication, forum boards, e-mails. everything in general... I'm not too excited about the outcome this year. maybe most of the people didn't even realize it was going on.
Nominations were not limited
Nominations were not limited to any particular list of people. It was completely open.
People submitted their nominees, we (Roo) then manually counted the number of times each person was nominated. At that point there were some ties so this round is devised to break the ties. We will then move on to the actual voting.
The nomination process is completely open so as to make it as fair as possible. Anyone from any server could log on and nominate anyone they wanted. We then don't take our choices from the list of nominees, we choose those that got the most nominations to move on to the next round.
ok.... i was also suggesting
ok.... i was also suggesting a better way of nominating people and or a list of everyone nominated.
And, i don't think nominations is really the way to go. "Player of the year" should be based on many factors. Whether its PVP, helping people out, friendly, rudeness, people that shine more than others in the community. Cause as of now... it's not much but random people nominating their best friends and eachother.
and i am somewhat part of the staff o.O... so does the we involve me as well?
That's a valid point. My
That's a valid point.
My fear is if we put up every name that is nominated for the first round of voting there would be an enormous number of names up there. And really it would come down to the same thing anyway ... the people who have the most people nominating them are up this way, those same people would be the ones who got people to come vote for them if we put up all 200+ nominations for an open vote.
One interesting spin on your proposal might be to have each major pledge (we would have to determine what the criteria for a "major" pledge would be) nominate one member then put them all up for the first round of elimination.
Obviously, we have what we have this year; but it might be worth a look down the road as we continue to look for the perfect system.
Who is orangecrush?
Who is orangecrush?
OrangeCrush is 0Merlin0 wife
OrangeCrush is 0Merlin0 wife o.o
www.lineagedb.com
OrangeCrush is a level 50,
OrangeCrush is a level 50, female knight on Dep. Married (lineage and r/l) to 0Merlin0, lvl 50 mage on Dep
Kerah!
Kerah!
why did some polls close
why did some polls close faster then others ?
I think the nominations are
I think the nominations are fine the way they were. I felt my pledgmates deserved to win and the pledge rallied up to support the nominees. And we're probably the smallest pledge on Dep! It's not about lvl and strenght is about personality and kindness towards others. I think OrangeCrush and 0Merlin0 have touched enough peoples lives that they stand a chance of winning. Without them dozens of players would still be trying to complete quests.
Sorry, C, but I disagree
Sorry, C, but I disagree with your concept of "major" pledge. What would determine the cutoff?
Number of people in the pledge? There's no way of knowing that and no way of knowing how many of those players are still active?
Holding castles? Well, just ask Tril about that one. :)
No matter what, it's going to be a popularity contest... whether that be for helpfulness or just sheer numbers of people voting for someone... unless and until we can use data that we just don't (and can't) have access to, like leveling stats, etc. And even then... bots would win on leveling. :)
Well as I stated early on
Well as I stated early on the criteria for a "major" pledge would have to be established, and I don't know what it would be. There is nothing that says it has to be any of those things, though. It could be any pledge the majority of the server could identify or any pledge *I* can identify for that matter.
I'm not convinced it would really change the end result anyway. It might change or add some names to those that are up there now, but in the end it's still going to be the the person who can get the most of their friends to log in and vote for them that is going to walk away with the goodies.
So the question becomes, how do you get the best sampling of nominees to choose from before opening it up to public voting.
Pledge nominations?
A committee from each server selecting nominees?
Just leave it the way it is?
There are probably as many options as there are minutes in the day.
So you answer my question of
So you answer my question of who is OrangeCrush with Merlin's wife... as though anyone knows who that is... or what pledge you are in. Both names sound like Bots to me anyway and that's immediately what I thought as well. However, I can't really think fo any knight who really deserves it anyway...
You think just because u
You think just because u have never heard of someone that they r bots? Do u always jump to conclusions like that?
www.lineagedb.com Hmm I can
www.lineagedb.com
Hmm I can agree with that. I used to be in KOD wit her elf before she started on her night alot as OC. Oh well good people to talk to she is.....0merlin0 Idk about that one. He still will not sell me his wife OC so he does not get my vote.
So who's Dlirk anyway? I
So who's Dlirk anyway? I never heard of you, so you must be a bot.
The fact that you haven't
The fact that you haven't heard of me proves that you and your pledge is full of nobodies and probably are bots
I recognize the name, but I
I recognize the name, but I have not interacted with you before. Does that mean I am a bot? I have been playing since November 2001 and I have yet to break level 50 o.O. I did take lengthy breaks though, so I dunno :P.
heh, dlirk is old school. If
heh, dlirk is old school. If you played back in the day you know who he is. him and i are the reason like over 50% of dep have their 50+ quest items. and that was many years ago... that quest was so... lifedraining :P. You need to whisper me in game bro but anyways.
Pledge nominations?
A committee from each server selecting nominees?
Are both good ideas and should be considered. But as of now the player of the year the past few years has kinda been a joke. But this year is kinda worse then usual. I mean. Look at the lists already selected or being selected in the votings.
Elf: Male - Ken Rauhel's Nycros (No dep or LOA chars)
Elf: Female - Ken Rauhel's Jesy (No dep or LOA chars)
Knight: Male - Lands Of Aden's L3g3nd (No dep or ken chars)
Knight: Female - Depardieu's OrangeCrush (No ken or loa chars)
Mage: Male - Depardieu's 0Merlin0 (No ken or loa chars)
Mage: Female - TIEBREAKER - VOTE NOW (No dep or loa chars)
DarkElf: Male - TIEBREAKER - VOTE NOW (No dep chars)
DarkElf: Female - TIEBREAKER - VOTE NOW (No ken chars)
Royal: Male - Ken Rauhel's Justifier (no dep or loa chars)
Royal: Female - TIEBREAKER - VOTE NOW (No dep char in the vote)
I mean... there atleast has to be 1-2 chars from each server i think. I mean, DEP only had 3 categories of chars in it.... and 2 of the categories the winner of those categories were selected already.... But anyways. I'll comment later. this is good enough. I'm a rep from dep that can nominate tons of people. But depends on the circumstances and the category
I will probably regret
I will probably regret writing this because I am sure someone somewhere will take it the wrong way but here goes.....
Sir, I DO have chars on all 3 servers. Ken is where I play the most.
No disrespect ment, but you can't know EVERYONE on EVERY server, can you?
You did not complain when you were nominated. You gave a very nice interview. I'm sure you rock or you would not have been nominated. Please do not chastise people for having a different opinion and please, have some respect and stop the name calling.
As far as how POTY is run, I think the fights would stop if it were ONE person from EACH server. Mainly because of the obvious being, the server you play the most is the server that will get you a nomination. And no one knows you like the people on whatever server you play most.
I am still shocked my name is up there but I also am honored because that means all the people I have helped over the years have recognized me as a good/kind/giving/fair player. I don't bother anyone and I don't get into fights, I am a negotiator. Ask anyone on Ken ;)
You can check either of my blogs to see what kind of person I am since you do not know me (or some others) so that you can vote fairly, not just because someone is a friend, but because of their accomplishments in game.
Enjoy the event and the Holidays.
Family first!
2nd family, close runner up!
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Jesy, you'll get no argument
Jesy, you'll get no argument from me on most everything you said. I agree that a one-person-per-server for the final vote would probably be a better way to go, but I don't expect it to happen this year.
If Roo has the time next year, I might suggest starting with nominiations by class by gender, then having the server vote down to one per class, then one per server, then the winner. The tough part of that is "who's on what server" voting. That might prove insurmountable.
And I still wouldn't expect NC to promote it. It would be nice. Maybe a number of us could convince Fracas to help promote it by global announcements of some kind, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
I'm not at all shocked to see your name there. You've always been a good, solid player. (But I *have* seen you get into at least one fight albeit not the major kind and not on Jesy. :) Though, that wouldn't necessarily be something that would cause a player not to be a good nomination in my opinion.)
Ahhh yes the day Kachina had
Ahhh yes the day Kachina had you going on global......
I don't remember what it was about but I was puffin' you :p
You have got to have a bigger sense of humor woman!
I would never disrespect you, I was just puffin' ya!
v
I never claimed to know
I never claimed to know everyone on every server. And I didn't complain about the year I was nominated cause that year seemed a little more fair. People from all the servers were nominated and it was the best of each server competing with each other. The first 2-3 years were good. This year I think had a great concept going but just lacked fairness when it came to players from each server.
And I only get mad when people try and disrespect your thoughts, suggestions, and comments. How would you feel? I've only made 1 interview, and started a major page for the "8 year war" on DEP, but... Just lost my motivation to finish it. Especially with how involved this game has become over the past 2 years. Between people switching sides like mad, the backstabbing, racism, hating, trash talk, and the wars itself. I just lost motivation for it all. I have 2 blogs, www.xanga.com/vfieldsoflove and www.livejournal.com/users/minarum. The livejournal I never update anymore but there is some major history there, and the xanga is strictly all about the war. Eventrually I will finish a article for that when everything cools down(if that ever happens)
And Wiffen, Most of everything I said up there were suggestions for upcoming POTY's and ways of making it a little bit fairer(if thats a word haha).
But I am actually considering what you said and will probably do it. Give me a few weeks or a month or so, depends how my financial situation and time looks, I'll do my own POTY for this year. But I will need atleast 2-3 people from each server to help me with it, and I'll take ALL nominations. I'll give details when I think about it, If anyone is interested in helping me, PM me or add me to your MSN:
Peace, thx~
Prize will be atleast 4-6 months free :P, not trying to copy roo, but thats probably the best prize to give, lineage related.
Dlirk do you really wanna
Dlirk do you really wanna spar with me and my pledge? In front of all the Lineageone community? Sounds kinda silly don't it? You don't even know us!
I wanna suggest a re-poll
I wanna suggest a re-poll for male darkelf. I want to nominate Jayne from Loa server. This player shows over-the-top gameplay in every aspect. All Legit player. The power of Str/dex!
Re-poll for male mage
Re-poll for male mage aswell. Chozo from LOA. i want to see this player win cause he has worked his ass off for everything he has.
Too late...Try again next
Too late...Try again next year :).
I guess I'd suggest running
I guess I'd suggest running your own site and Player of the Year contest through it. Right now, this year's nominations are done. Over. Finished.:) I guess you should have made your nominations before they ended.
The Roo hath spoken. Resistance is Rootile.
Personally, for those people I know, I understand almost all of the nomination selections. There are two I don't quite get, but I didn't read the submissions. I do know I trust Roo's judgement and fairness in making the selections.
It's just too bad nobody nominated me... *sob* ;)
I wish player of the year
I wish player of the year nomination system would have been more carefully thought out.. cause the number of times a candidate is nominated shouldn't weigh more than the quality of candidate's accomplishment.. meaning if 8 same pledgemates nominated one person for hitting 70... and only one person nominated someone for creating... lets say.. lineageone.com.. wouldn't the accomplishment of creating a community portal site more of an achievement then someone hitting 70 as it is more valuable to us as a whole community? this of course is just an example but i think it is a very valid point that needs to be discussed.
i nominated someone for very good reason and he didn't make it to nomination in this system.... its a real shame :(
Soomyung
Dark Elf
Ken Rauhel
http://soomy.blogspot.com
do we have to fight about
do we have to fight about EVERYTHING?
How about a disney idea, Spirit Awards are pins that cast members wear on thier name tag.
It is a prize that is given out each year to certain cast members that go above and beyond. They are chossen by OTHER cast memebers.
You fill out a form and a poll of peeps review WHAT, WHY and HOW the cast memeber showed true Disney spirit.
Then a ceremony and award are given.
One nomination if truely great will get you the award.
I think though that Roo was looking for WHO on the server in each class got more than ONE nomination or the MOST nominations. It would seem that you had to give a REASON to nominate them so that people didn't just SPAM, and the tie breaker was the only VOTE per say. The winner was a winner because the MOST people told a story and filled out the form and nominated him, not for one thing but for multiple things.
Maybe next year the storys can go up then we vote from there?
But mostly I say if you feel that your server was not represented then next year TELL your server to come here and write up a nomination.
:)
bottom line though..
I TRUST ROO TOO!
"The only friends that matter are the ones you can call at 4am."
www.crystaljeanelf.blogspot.com
Maybe the sensible way to
Maybe the sensible way to address this in the future is to hold nominations for a player of the year for EACH server. If you look at it from a purely statistical standpoint, Dakota Sky (LoA) has a tremendous advantage over AngelBella (Ken) in a run-off because most players don't know much about players from other servers and LoA has a HUGE. So, if the contest was held on a per server basis, people would predominantly be voting on players they knew something about and the "competition" wouldn't be skewed so much by server population.
Just a thought. :)
Now, bring on the Winter event!!!!!
This is good news! This is
This is good news!
This is the first time I can remember this much discussion about the nomination process. That has to mean either more people are reading the site and/or more people are getting involved with the community.
The glass is half full people. This is proof that while the overall numbers might dwindle, the Lineage One and Lineageone community is still strong.
:D
this is to u and
this is to u and CrystalJeanElf.
No we don't have to fight about everything but the POTY system right now is really flawed. So don't complain when people want a somewhat better system. And this is Lineage, I don't think I've ever seen any disney features or products in this game. Don't use a lame example.
And I'm not one to start problems but yah, When I see a big, unfair, advantage for EVERYONE... something needs to be done. And I can promise you there are a lot of people on dep that either doesn't know what POTY is or had no clue it was going on right now.
Wasn't this tied into NC as well? Like 4 free months or something? If thats the case and NC is involved, how come monitors aren't making announcements or when you log on. No messages letting everyone know that this is going on? There are tons of things that can be done to improve this.. But the way it is right now. I honestly say, do a clean sweep, give it another week, make ingame announcements and interview people and pledges. I'm down for helping.
LineageOne is an affiliated
LineageOne is an affiliated site for the game of Lineage (read: Official Fan Site), but is not directly related to NC. Roo developed and pays for this site out of his own pocket, therefore, it's his right to do things when and how he sees fit. NC has nothing to do with it. Roo paid for the game cards. Roo pays for the t-shirts.
If the people on Dep don't come here, oh-freakin'-well. Tell them about the site if you want them to come and vote or submit nominations. Don't blame it on Roo. It's not up to him to go out and drum up votes, etc. He doesn't even have to listen to what people suggest (although he often does just because he's Roo).
Like I said before... if you don't like the way it's done, if you think you have a better way of doing it, feel free to start your own site and own POTY. Roo tried something different this year. I don't know if it's the ultimate in how to approach this, but it's what we have.
I just think it all sounds like a lot of sour grapes that the smallest server population seems to be the most involved in this site. Not surprising if you think about it since Roo primarily plays on Ken.
You know, I love reading
You know, I love reading your response everytime. Cause you honestly have no clue what your talking about. Do you not know how to read? NC has nothing to do with it eh? and Roo paid for the game cards?
Why don't you go back and read what the prizes are.. or better yet, I will copy/paste you this part of it.
"Prizes? WHAT? You want prizes? Well of course! This year we're feeling generous. In cooperation with the wonderful folk back at NC Austin, The LineageOne Player of the Year will be awarded with 180 days of FREE playing time!"
Yah, NC has no part in it... I can tell, you should get off your high horse and just stuff a sock in your mouth... don't humiliate yourself anymore than you already did. k Thx~
That pretty much makes NC official in the matter huh?.... so they can do a ingame announcement, they just don't....
And trust me, No one is hating on Roo. We love Roo. It's called giving suggestions and getting better feedback for future POTY's.
Hi Anju... Here's what I
Hi Anju...
Here's what I said about NC having nothing to do with how POTY is run since POTY is a LineagoeOne event, not an NC event... NC has no control over the LineageOne site (or Roo... nobody can control RooRoo. *laugh*)
Oh, and, ya, Anju... you're an oddball. *laugh* But we knew that and love you anyway.
I dunno about that... but
I dunno about that... but something as big as "Player of the Year" should probably be a bit more than a popularity contest. Like Soomy said... it should be the "above and beyond player" award not the "I'm the only female in my pledge so they all voted for me" award.
If you read about how Roo
If you read about how Roo was going to do it this year, the ultimate nominees were selected in part based on what people wrote about them. Now, I presume that if someone had a lot of people say "This player should be nominated because", it would be hard to turn away from that.
In other words, how do you quantify something that is really a rather subjective concept? What criteria determines "above and beyond"? And how does that word get spread other than having other players write about their nominee? Remember Roo has no way to verify quantitative data like % leveled (and how can it be proved someone wasn't botting?)
Unfortunately, about the only way to do that is to "rely on the kindness of strangers".
If you happen to be the only female character (not necessarily a real-life female, btw) in your pledge, well, more's the luck for you.
No matter what... it's always going to be some kind of a popularity contest, like it or not. If you don't like it, nobody's threatening to hold your head in the toilet if you don't participate. :)
Unless you're into that sort of thing...
Guess better promoting is
Guess better promoting is needed for next years player of the year.. like in game announcement on global by someone from lineageone staff or someone who will volunteer on thier behalf~
but then thier are those who close themselves from the community and have global off or never visit blogs/fansites.. so in the end.. its not lineageone's fault that; who you thought should be player of the year didnt make it..it is yours for not knowing till it was too late :P
..:: My Blog ::..
NC won't announce it on
NC won't announce it on global. It would make it come off as an official NC thing, and it's not. It's completely Roo-driven, Roo-sponsored.
Gotta respect the Roo for everything he puts into this site.
Just read my comment
Just read my comment above... don't keep making false statements......
Quote:global by someone from
thiss is not hard to pull off
..:: My Blog ::..
Well... No offense to roo
Well... No offense to roo then, but if the damn thing can't be done right then it shouldn't be done at all. For all I know OrangeCrush is the most deserving knight in the damn universe and we ought to be giving her a bazillion dollars because everytime she laughs a puppy is saved. But it isn't coming off as that... and if we're supposed to vote on categories... why on EARTH do we not see what people wrote about them to vote?
No one is saying that those players aren't deserving or that it is roo's fault... but I think we should see why a player was nominated at least for the categories in which we need to vote between two people.
Besides... I dunno bout those other guys... but Soomy always translates cool stuff from overseas... In my opinion that is worth ten times the ability of someone who even leveled to 75 deleveled and releveled to 100.
Quote:Besides... I dunno
/agree
go soomy v.v
..:: My Blog ::..
Let me translate for you
Let me translate for you since you don't seem to grok what "in cooperation with" stands for... it doesn't mean it's NC's POTY. All that means is that NC donated the playing time, not that they officially have anything to do with how people are selected or the POTY is run.
I'll give you an example of "in cooperation". Our homeowners' association puts on a couple different events every year. Each one, for example, our 4th of July celebration, has prizes and such (and sometimes just cash money to help pay for the event). The prizes are donated by local companies... like a gift card from one of the local grocery chains. Our advertisements and news articles that go out always say things like "in cooperation with" and "in conjunction with" or "supported by". It doesn't mean that local grocery chain has any say in what we do for the 4th of July party/parade or anything else involving it. It's still our homeowners' association that puts it on.
Would we listen if someone there had suggestions? Sure. As long as they were presented respectfully and logically, we'd listen. We might not do them, but we'd listen.
Then again, if they came off as rude little twits... maybe not so much.
"Let me translate for you
"Let me translate for you since you don't seem to grok what "in cooperation with" stands for... it doesn't mean it's NC's POTY. All that means is that NC donated the playing time, not that they officially have anything to do with how people are selected or the POTY is run."
who said it was NC's POTY? you just did, none of us has said that yet. You said NC had nothing to do with it, when actually they did. You just said they donated play time(which is true), yet a few posts up. You said they had nothing to do with it and ROO paid for the game cards and blah blah.... Jesus, make up your mind man.... It's not that hard to grip, you made false statements. I corrected you, now your trying to turn it around on me? Not possible. Like I said... u should just stop trying to comment and put a sock in your mouth, thats strike 2.
I think perhaps you'd best
I think perhaps you'd best re-read both what you said up there and what I said.
You're implication was that NC has influence on how POTY is run. THAT is what I've objected to. I've said nothing false in that. NC doesn't have anything to do with how POTY is run. Providing game playing time doesn't mean they have any say in how Roo runs it. It's Roo's show from beginning to end.
Yeesh. Talk about lack of comprehension. You haven't "corrected me" on that in any way.
. <----- Here is the point.
You are here. -------------------------------------> .
Not a thing for me to get over... other than the fact that you're coming off as a pompous, rude ass.
Oh. Wait. Over it.
/exclude
Uhh, i am reading WHAT YOU
Uhh, i am reading WHAT YOU SAID, perfectly. you need to word urself better in all 2-3 of your posts. cause you are the one misunderstanding me, and yourself. I corrected you, Anju sees it. Why won't you believe 2 people that are reading the exact same things yet you keep changing ur mind and views?
And here we go, "You're implication was that NC has influence on how POTY is run. THAT is what I've objected to. I've said nothing false in that. NC doesn't have anything to do with how POTY is run. Providing game playing time doesn't mean they have any say in how Roo runs it. It's Roo's show from beginning to end."
Uhh, i didn't say NC has any influence on how the POTY is run.... dude, do you have me mixed up with someone or are you just retarded when it comes to reading? My whole point of the thing was You claimed NC had NOTHING to do with POTY and said that Roo paid for everything out of his own pocket. I copy and pasted what Roo said about the free game play, and it involves NC... How on earth are you making it this difficult to comprehend something so simple? jesus christ... And nothing rude about it, stop making false statements...end of story la.
Edit**
you know, i was actually gonna just let it be, but I re-read what you just called me... I was making suggestions for future POTY earlier and your the one that came off as a pos saying the nominations are done, over, finished. Then making false statements then saying to start your own POTY...
Yah, lets look at it closer. You were over here <----------
So I went <--------- to correct your false statements that you kept repeating to everyone NC had NOTHING to do with it.
Then you went ---------------------> And I couldn't follow you, that's just a mental issue that you need to get checked out.
You then started saying things NO one said, Like NC is running POTY? Who said that, please quote someone haha... Your the only one that said NC is running POTY, You said Roo purchased the game cards, when Roo himself said NC donated them.... that itself makes YOU wrong. Which I corrected you.... You can't come back at me, I have said no false information :). And for anyone on dep, they know me. They know I'm a nice guy and great at helping everyone. When you repeated give out false information and start talking like were all morons. Expect to be treated like a pos that you are.
Treat people with respect, you will be given respect back, since you don't know what respect is, I'll leave you at that. Learn to read.
Sorry dawg, but Fields is
Sorry dawg, but Fields is 100% correct, you need to read better, and from reading all the posts. I'd say you were the one to come off as a ass first. Fields never once said NC influenced how the player of the year is run. So. I'm not sure what you were objecting to or where any of your points come into play. But Goodluck, peace
I read it the same way
I read it the same way Fields has been readding it. Maybe I am just an odd ball.
www.lineagedb.com
Wiffenpoof wrote:Roo paid
Don't worry Anju, you read it correctly... this guy/girl is a nutball... never seen someone so clueless as to what they have said and turn back on it immediately.... Not much to say about those kind of people but nod your head and try to agree, even when they are total hypocrits...
I'd like to take a moment to
I'd like to take a moment to thank Roo for his site and hopefully his patience. This is a great site. I check it everyday. Run it the way you want cuz it's workin'. I hope the negative nellies won't bum you out. And thanks to whoever else runs this site. I'd hate to lose it.
The "negative nellies" are
The "negative nellies" are equally as important as anyone else. It shows they care about what's going on. I am actually very pleased with how this years contest has gone (thus far). I do apologise for the delay in wrapping it up, but as I'm sure you'll appreciate - December can be a crazy month!
As for any other comments regarding NCsoft's involvement in the Player Of The Year competition...
The LineageOne Player Of The Year award has been running now since 2003... Back in those days it was required to use either a credit card, or money order to pay for Lineage. There were no game-time cards. There was no way for LineageOne to attribute credits to your game accounts. We would have to send international cheques to the USA and have them sit in a "pool" waiting to be assigned by NCsoft to an account... This takes a lot of co-operation with NCsoft to manage the fund. Since we, LineageOne, do not have the ability to credit the winning players accounts - those players had to be verified and credited by NCsoft using the "pool". Traditionally, this was done with the co-operation of Kyzah, Mistryl, Nomad or Crickette.
Today, thankfully, we have game-time cards which does make the process a lot easier for us - the international payments become much easier. However, as part of our License agreement with NCsoft, and in order to maintain the Lineage Terms of Service, these accounts still need to be verified with the co-operation of the NCsoft team.
With that in mind, I would like to extend a huge thanks to all of the folks back at NCA, without who, this sort of thing would simply not be possible.
Merry Christmas to all.
I'm going to start with a
I'm going to start with a curiousity question here...
and i am somewhat part of the staff o.O... so does the we involve me as well?
In what way are you part of the staff? The staff of NC or the staff of LineageOne?
Onwards...
Wasn't this tied into NC as well? Like 4 free months or something? If thats the case and NC is involved, how come monitors aren't making announcements or when you log on. No messages letting everyone know that this is going on? There are tons of things that can be done to improve this..
And I said:
ineageOne is an affiliated site for the game of Lineage (read: Official Fan Site), but is not directly related to NC. Roo developed and pays for this site out of his own pocket, therefore, it's his right to do things when and how he sees fit. NC has nothing to do with it. Roo paid for the game cards. Roo pays for the t-shirts.
In "NC has nothing to do with it", the "it" refers to LineageOne and the running of the POTY event.
You are right in the Roo did not pay for game cards this year (or maybe not the full price... that I don't know), but he has in years past. Therefore the statement "Roo paid for the game cards." is, indeed, true. He does pay for the t-shirts. In fact, he had asked NC to be able to use trademarked Lineage/NC logos, etc., and was denied the right to do that.
I will give that the statements "Roo paid for the game gards" and "Roo-sponsored" can be construed as ambiguous, but technically are not false statements.
If NC starts doing global announcements, etc., it makes LinOne's POTY look like an NC event, which it's not. Donating game cards does not mean NC has any influence in how Roo receives nominations, chooses nominations or even if he has any nominations at all. Roo is Queen. If he wants to just make appointments for voting (or even just outright name LinOne's POTY), he can do that. That's why NC can't/shouldn't become involved in promoting POTY. People could (and most likely would) complain that NC had some undue influence on the event.
But the way it is right now. I honestly say, do a clean sweep, give it another week, make ingame announcements and interview people and pledges.
Right now, this year's nominations are done. Over. Finished.:)
and then...
The Roo hath spoken. Resistance is Rootile.
And you said...
your the one that came off as a pos saying the nominations are done, over, finished.
Apparently, in your hurry to act the pompous, rude ass, you overlooked the smiley face following the "done, over, finished" statement, not to mention the humor in "The Roo hath spoken. Resistance is Rootile." A smiley denotes humor; a statement meant to be read in a joking way. Even if you'd missed the smiley, I would have thought the "Resistance is Rootile" would have been an obvious implication of intent of humor... more a "Three Stooges" approach than the smiley in the statement above.
That notwithstanding, the nominations are indeed done, over and finished for the year. I sincerely doubt that Roo wants (or has the time) to do it all over again.
But you also said:
But as of now the player of the year the past few years has kinda been a joke. But this year is kinda worse then usual.
If you don't want to come off as rude, you might try to work on phrasing a bit.
And for anyone on dep, they know me. They know I'm a nice guy and great at helping everyone.
And that has what to do with how you're acting here? I said you're coming off as a pompous, rude ass (which you are), not that you ARE a pompous, rude ass (which you still may be).
But, no... you'd rather just call me a "pos", a "nutball", ask me if I'm "retarded", tell me "put a sock in your mouth", etc.
and this gem:
that's just a mental issue that you need to get checked out.
I don't know... that pretty much smacks of pompous, rude ass to me. (And please note the difference between an "ass" and an "ass" followed by "hole". The two are NOT the same, though, in your case, inching closer and closer.)
Your the only one that said NC is running POTY
Where? Where did I say that NC is running POTY? In fact, my whole assertion here has been that NC does NOT run POTY. NC has nothing to do with running POTY.
You're [sic] implication was that NC has influence on how POTY is run.
Do you understand what an implication is? Here...
Wasn't this tied into NC as well? Like 4 free months or something? If thats the case and NC is involved, how come monitors aren't making announcements or when you log on. No messages letting everyone know that this is going on? There are tons of things that can be done to improve this..
The implication there is that NC has something to do with the event past the game cards (if indeed that was entirely donated by NC).
Again... where is that false information? (Oh, please, please don't try to say it's because I said "Roo paid for the game cards." or to try to redefine my statement that NC has nothing to do with running "it" (i.e. LineageOne/POTY). Roo has paid for game cards/t-shirts, and NC does not have anything to do with running LineageOne or POTY.) Those statements are both true even allowing for the previously acknowledged ambiguity.
and you said:
and start talking like were all morons.
There's no "we" in that, FoL (assuming that you mean "we're" and not "were"). You're pretty much the only one to whom I've been talking, so if you're feeling a little moronic, well... not my problem.
Yep... that's got all the hallmarks of a "nice guy".
Let's see... where's that big, huge "Three Stooges/Jackass" emoticon for "Sarcasm"? I know I left it here somewhere... ;)
Yah, i spent my time readin
Yah, i spent my time readin that, but why should i even bother to comment? You misinterperet(sp) everything that has been said and tried turning it around. You assumed me or someone else was saying this is a thing run by NC when no one said it, so That's why i said your the only one saying this.
Why don't you click, "About us" at the top of this website... then tell me what you see. But yah, you are totally clueless man. I give up, I can't argue with someone when the evidence is right there. There really is no helping you. Anju sees my point, that dragon guy sees my point... 3vs1... im not crazy, hehe
But I will leave you with this since you know so much, The past few years NC has given the free game cards.... If you do a search, it will tell you... so again, your still wrong haha
FieldsOfLove wrote:Yah, i
Well, you may have spent time reading it, but apparently no time with reading comprehension.
Here's a remedial edition, Reader's Digest version for you:
You originally asked if NC was tied into it, and if so, why didn't they advertise it, why didn't monitors make announcements, why there weren't login blurbs, etc. I responded by saying that NC was not involved in the running of POTY and that if they did those things, there would be an implication that NC was officially involved.
Hmmmm...
...
That pretty much makes NC official in the matter huh?.... so they can do a ingame announcement, they just don't....
Seems to me that's you saying NC is officially part of POTY, but I'm still looking for where I supposedly said that NC is running it or where I wrote that someone else said NC was running it.
Your assertion that NC should global an announcement and was "officially" involved implied NC had something to do with selecting nominees, etc. I objected to that implication. I objected to your statement that NC was "official" in POTY. I objected to something that would give people the impression that NC had something to do with running POTY, e.g. selecting nominees.
Why don't you click, "About us" at the top of this website... then tell me what you see.
I asked a legitimate question... no judgements, just curiousity (and even stated outright it was a curiousity question), but you needed to reinforce your pompousity by being sarcastic rather than just stating "I'm a reporter for Dep". And *I'm* a "pos"?
Where are your reports from Dep? It would be interesting to read them.
The answer to that is apparently (obviously) "no". I don't know about the other 20 reporters. They may have been involved. Nor do I know about the other 8 administrators, but I know that I wasn't involved. Then again, I was out of town for 5 weeks or so when Roo was taking up nominations. I could ask some of the other admins if they were involved if you like.
Okay, I've let the "dude" and "man" go on, but it's awfully ignorant to make the assumption that everyone here is male.
And, frankly, I'm not convinced you'd know a clue if the Clue Bus ran you over.
Well, the evidence is there, all right. It's just not the evidence you think it is. I've even tried to point it out specifically. Guess you need the "Three Stooges" approach there, too. But, please, feel free to give up. You are, literally, pointless.
I'd love to help you out. Which way did you come in? :)
In order to help someone, you have to have something to offer in the way of help. When you have something like that, let me know.
Always gotta love the lemming defense...
But, I know Anju. If I were you, I don't think I'd hitch my wagon to his. :) I'll catch him on TS and explain the error of his ways to him. It won't be the first time. :) But you... you just keep telling yourself you're not crazy and ending it with a little chuckle. Perhaps you'll find someone who believes you.
Few... as in two? "Couple" is two. "Few" is three". (And we still don't know if they were entirely donated by NC or if Roo paid for part of those... he's only said "In cooperation with".) But, you know, I did search back.... I saw the "in cooperation with" for 2006. I looked for it for 2004 and 2005. All I saw was that game cards were given as prizes as were t-shirts (from the NC store, one of which I know AmericanGirl still has - she happened to mention it to me yesterday on the phone). I didn't see anything about NC donatiing them or "in cooperation with NC".
I do know that Roo has said (actually said, not written on the site but said, either in TeamSpeak or IM, I don't recall now) that he has paid for game cards, prizes, etc.
And I'm still waiting to have you point out exactly how... tick tock tick tock
Fish in a barrel... fish in a barrel...
Uhh, if you search for
Uhh, if you search for Fields' posts you would know he did a interview with Magnetik and maybe a few others awhile back. That's your fault for not listening to him or actually doing research on the matter.
And from what I read from what he was saying, since NC did put free play time and from the rules listed. NC does have a say on who can get the free play time and who doesn't. So I understand completely that NC does have a matter in this whether they want to get involved in game or not. Did you not read that? And Player of the year, there were 4 months EVERY year since 04, paid by NC. Any extra time is Roo or NC, but Fields' is yet, correct on that again since a few means 3 or more right? Well, its 07 now and 04 would mean that there were 4 years of 4 months of free lineage BY NC.... But I guess you really didn't read that.
You already lost the war. Why keep on fighting it? Making more stuff up won't do you any good. And I'm sure Anju won't agree with you, but you keep thinking your sane...
DragonKnight wrote:Uhh, if
Why sound so snotty on this? I asked a question and said it would be interesting to read his reports. I looked for a blog. Didn't find one. I actually did search for his name in posts, but no way to tell what were just postings and what were "reports".
I don't understand why you feel the need to be an ass about it.
That applies to anyone who plays, period, whether the game cards are free or not. It doesn't apply solely to POTY.
So I understand completely that NC does have a matter in this whether they want to get involved in game or not. Did you not read that?
That gives them the option to deny service to someone who has won a card (especially given some of the rules stated, like, must have a valid Lineage1 game account) or any kind of game card, prize or not. Perhaps they might deny service to someone who has previously been banned for some reason, like botting, but I don't see where it gives them any say in who gets nominated, how nominations are considered, who gets the ultimate nod to go forth into the final voting, or the regular running of POTY... only anything regarding their regular terms of service.
180 days is 6 months, not 4. This year it was 180 days. I think it was 180 days in 2006 and 2005, too, but not positive on that offhand. I'm pretty sure it started out as 120 days to the winner and 60 days to all the finalists (including the winner).
The question remains whether or not NC donated those game cards (back to 2004) or if Roo purchased them at least in part. I remember Roo saying something about having bought prizes. There's still the question of whether NC donated the entire thing this year even. "In cooperation with" usually means there are at least 2 parties involved in the event/transaction/whatever. We won't know the answer to that unless Roo decides to chime in.
You already lost the war.
You can say that all you like, but it doesn't make it true. Even if NC donated the cards and the t-shirts as prizes completely for all the years of the event, that is still just one battle in this "war". It still doesn't mean that NC can/should make announcements on global or login screens or otherwise since it's not an NC event. It's a LineageOne event.
You see, that's the whole point of this that has entirely gotten lost in this "who got the game cards" thing that became the focus of the discussion. FoL started izooming in on the prizes and how that meant that NC was officially involved.
FoL complained that he felt that the nominations should be completely wiped out, interviews done, announcements made, etc., primarily, it seemed, because there weren't enough Dep players who made the final nomination. My assertion was that Roo is running the event the way Roo wants to run the event (and, given his current time constraints, it would be highly unlikely he would redo the entire thing even if he wanted to). I continued to say that if anyone didn't like the LineageOne POTY event, they could do their own however they would like, but NC wouldn't promote it either. Stub could do one on LinDB. LC could do one on Ancientz. Whatever, whoever, whenever.
That's been lost in the middle of this "who got the game cards" fracas (not to be confused with NC's Fracas or Fracas' Fracas, the *real* Fracas).
Because now it's amusing to watch you guys twist in the wind.
Please point out what stuff it is you purport I've made up.
And I'm sure Anju won't agree with you, but you keep thinking your sane...
Don't be so sure. Anju actually has a brain. He just forgets to engage it at times.
Odd how I'm supposedly the "pos", but you guys are the ones who want to make the personal comments typical of the immature when they can't come up with a logical arguement; pos, retard, nutball, or, in this case, regarding my sanity. Grow up.
Wow, now I see why Fields is
Wow, now I see why Fields is getting cranky over you. Well, I meant NC has donated atleast 4 months every year. cause yes you are right, a few of them say 120days, and a additional 60days, I would think the extra 60days are from roo.
o.o don't make me make you
o.o don't make me make you two hold hands.
im not gonna say who i agree with here but my piece into this is..
the rules were given and followed on roo's part.. yes more probably could have been done to create more balance in the nominations. but hey, you all have been playing this game long enough to know that balance never happens lol. the player of the year competition is like a players vote for who they think has accomplished the most or has effected those around them positively the most in the past year in the game. everyone makes their votes..and roo counts up who had the most..like an election..yes it may get a little more in depth,, or not in depth enough.. but thats the way it is put out.
some of you might disagree with me in some way or not like what i say, which is fine everyone is entitled to their opinion..and that really shouldnt be argued about. its just an opinion...
Love
Dr. Phil o.o
v Gan! Hope you are
v Gan!
Hope you are well.
Hope you have as good a holiday as ya can over there....
Miss ya!
v.v Jesy I'm still doin
v.v Jesy
I'm still doin good. Not very long now til i go home. Can't wait to get back. Miss u 2 v.v
FoL... I'll go read the blog
FoL... I'll go read the blog stuff when I get the chance. Today is going to be a busy day (well, the next several days, for obvious reasons), and the time I have, I want to use the event to try to level my poor little princess who has been 49 for about 5 years now. I do have characters on all 3 servers, but really only play Ken anymore. I've been in Roo's pledge with one character or another for almost the entire 5 years.
I wish you the best on developing a site and POTY. It's hard work and takes a lot of dedication. I know you'll try to make it as fair as possible.
Jesy... the "fight" (short-lived) was about handicapped people and people who approach it with either a victim mentality or an abled mentality. The one thing in that that made me laugh was when you said no wonder you hadn't voted for me to join EBO... except for the fact you'd already left EBO by then. *laugh* But I still have always thought you were a good player and I know EBO blood still flows through your veins, just like it does through mine. :)
Now, off get some xp!!
Ahh yes I was defending a
Ahh yes I was defending a pledgemate.....another difference in opinion huh?
And you are so right, v EBO!
But even after I left, I still did the same things with them like help them find new elves :p
To this day, I still feel like I am part of EBO. Still send Christmas cards, e-mail, still want to do my level 50 quest with Ellesar :)
Oh, I still hang with some
Oh, I still hang with some old EBO folks as well. Cainna, obviously, though she rarely drags C2 out to play anymore. BT (who will be hitting 50 here very soon... she's planning on New Year's Eve... I'm so happy for her! Another one a long time coming!)
I haven't seen or heard from Elle in ages... How is he doing? Have you heard from Lind at all?
I'll do my 50 with Roo if I can because Roo and I kind of grew up together as royals and I was in X11 back before it was X11 :) In fact, the only reason I'd left X11 were because of a couple kids in there who were making the experience miserable. Now it's back to the old way, thankfully, once the twits got the boot.
I've really only been in one bp ever with anyone that turned out to be a mistake, and I left it within a week, I think, but still hang with many of the people from there, too.
Gotta love the game. :)
I WILL be at BT level up!
I WILL be at BT level up! May not be on Jes if she is still on 2-3f Lastavard but I WILL be there! She is an amazing woman irl and I am so proud to call her my friend.
Ell & Sab are both doing very well. Got a card from him the other day. And no :( I have not seen or heard from Lind. I'm sure he is sailing around the Pacific and I now he is in another game that I will not speak of.....
And yes, I love this game for what it brought into my life, great friends ;)
Happy holidays and I promise not to puff you on global any more :p
Lindalas is with SilentForce
Lindalas is with SilentForce playing World of Warcraft on the Mug'Thol server.
Yeah, I wasn't sure if it
Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was WoW or Lin2 but BAD LIND!
And I miss him!
I should know, I did several
I should know, I did several hunts and a couple raids with him on my Paladin ;).
Well Crazy, it isn't like
Well Crazy, it isn't like you're around WOW much either now :-) For all the rest of you HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!! I'm hopefully roaming around Aden with EE every now and then but my main hunting is done in WOW. You wouldn't believe how ferocious I am now. Lind (ever the slacker) can hardly keep up with me in the damage deparment. He is so lucky to have me looking after him and saving him from certain death each and every time he logs on.
He said he was tempted to re-enable his account just for BT's lvl up hunt, but will probably just be there in spirit. If I can convince EE to show up I'll be there!
Hi Roo, Wiff, Jesy and everyone else!
Meeeoowww!
Hellcat
I may return to WoW someday,
I may return to WoW someday, but for now I play Lineage about 1-2 hrs every other night and sometimes don't play for several days. Maybe, once things die down for me I may actually reach level 50 with one of my characters :).
I know the old-timers in Silent Force miss having me around on WoW :).
Update your blog more often
Update your blog more often too :P.
I think you being there
I think you being there would MAKE BT's party!..... Well, of course, what am I thinking? YOU always MAKE the party special Helly v
If I recall correctly, he
If I recall correctly, he played on a Mac, and I don't think there's a Mac client for Lin2. (In fact, there's barely a client for Lin. :)
Certified Macaholic
Certified Macaholic
Wow I must be the only
Wow I must be the only person happy with my mac client. I almost never lag or dc but i see it happen alot to other PC users. I must be on the razor's edge. Hope it lasts. GO MAC GO!
Im happy with everything
Im happy with everything about the mac client except the ~10% slower walk/run/cast/swing speeds.
Got Blog?
I almost never have lag
I almost never have lag issues plaing on my MAC, but us MAC users do miss out on a client that runs at full speed and a few other extras that PC users get.
Maybe the issues with the mac client will get fixed in EP6 ^.0
I am getting a intel Mac in the spring anyhoo, so I will probably just run Lineage in Bootcamp at that point
Helly!!! v.v.v I miss Helly.
Helly!!! v.v.v
I miss Helly.