HELP ON ELF!! Any high lvl elf or someone who has alot of info for elf here?

Here's my 2 cents

I play dex elf and I found it to be very useful especially when leveling. Pro - good base ac without need to buy uber items which I couldn't afford before. Con - hp which is much loved by all chars is compromised at the expense of ac and good dmg bonus. If you're going to do a lot of pvp I would suggest a balance of dex and con so you don't really lose out that much when you're able to eventually add stat points.

I maxed dex and now I'm going onto INT and I use sword. My heal is good and when I efall I do sunburst or VT which works wonders for mops weak to fire.

Stick to bow if you plan to balance dex with con until you can add points and level on con then switch to sword. I have t-boots and silver wings so they help a little with hp but without them it's quite though to hunt on FI.

The money you have should give you quite a decent setup I think coz i don't know the prices on your server but I think you'll be able to level up rather quickly. If you can find a heal slave do 31flrs up once you reached 48, you should be able to level up fairly quickly. Go wind from the start especially if you do not max dex, it helps especially when you get stormshot.

There will be those that will have differing opinion so I hope others would contribute as well. I would love to hear and learn from their experience.

OK here is my stance on elves... I hate them with a passion like many others do o.o (but i always love the free iron and fire buff :) and I espeacially love them when they are on my side in a fight

but im always willing to give u an example of an elf I hate the most which is!

A Base 18 con elf that has added to int and wis (the ultimate elf i hate in my opinion would have to be this setup)
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Why? because Int helps you in healing, in tuing and invading MY 5x toi QQ, and of course doing massive dmge with spells espeacially with fall down as well as for using certain spells when you are pvping like counter mirror(its like a slap across the face when the destroy you cast bounces back at you).
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Wis helps against curse spells like cancel/silence/mana drain/freeze cause it will give you high mr and even higher mr then a mage espeacially since you have a 25% starting bonus + the bonuses you get from your 2 elven spells. I think 1 adds 10% and the other adds +3 wis (so you only need like 20/21wis for mr). sure wis will help you in the regen department too but for crying out loud, you have b2s for a reason! and with the combination of B2S and a high int heal, that hp u lose from b2s will be nothing compared to the gain of the hp u get from your heal. Another thing is that with high mr, you can wear Elemental resis items instead of mr items (like 30%fire rings instead of 10%mr rings when you are just fighting mops/bosses)~meaning you can have 100%mr + insane Elemental resis.
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Con.. ok seriously.. if you are going to lvl an elf, and you are gona go 50+ for sure, 18con is the way to go, anything else, is just an excuse for your lack of patience! Con gives you high hp, helps with your carry capacity, and when you are being nuked and slamed at by players or bosses or mops, you defeinetly want that extra hp, you will be able to tank bosses longer, and you will be able to tank ppl with ease, as well as mops espeacialy in palces like 3x or toi/tos/lastavard/soe/anyplace where you get swarmed like krazy in an instant, you want taht extra hp.. trust me. I have seen elves Tank and B2s while getting slammed in all directions in pvp (of course immune was at play thier but you get the picture). and being able to tank mops and b2s is a blessing too.

Ok, so if you want to power level, wind is the way to go hands down w/ a bow
my bow of preference would be a a bowgun (why? cause you can wear a shield and it gives you a good hit bonus). Now im sure ppl may have thier opinions on it, but this is the bow i stand by.

now the lack of dex, i dont think is THAT big of a deal espeacially when you have triple shot and all this extra hit/dex from self buff spells and items. and even that 0 ER curse spells that is coming for elves in epi 6.

And if you build your elf right with starting 18con base.. you will never regret it imo

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I would say that 18con 13dex is the best way to go if your planning on getting 50+, then probably adding to dex till 18 dex and after that you will know which path you want to take out of str/wis/int...i'd suggest int. As for leveling, bow is definitely the way to go, ideally a bowgun. You CAN level with a sword from 48+ decently but elf is designed to be a bow user really, personally I won't consider using a sword other than mithril dagger on occasion for the sp, I did use +8 flame sword a little but never got the chance to use +9 one unfortunately, of course this could well change with the new fire spells coming out that will allow you to hit for max rolls and the fire line version of exotic vitalize(regen hp/mp overweight). I can't comment on whether DE is better but I can say out of playing mage, elf and knight, elf is definitely the most enjoyable for me. Don't forget the free twig of ent either! So yeh 18con 13dex wind elf, maybe with dex spell and dex helm and dex ammy or lizardman glove so you will get up to 21 dex and you should be able to level pretty fast. I would stick to areas with undead or where you can use bow and then v-t to good effect...

Agreed

I traded my dex elf in for a elf starting out at 18 con. Elf is supposed to be the "flexible" class. IF you add con and wis from the start you can have that flexibility later. Example would be if you went dex and you wanted to use a sword. If you have under 400 hp and use sword things will be tough O>O

Use a bow 1-49 at least in my opnion.

wow guys thank you so much for all your input.

so.... 18 con and the extra point to... wis? because when I was checking the stat, if I put the last in to dex, I can get 1 ac every 6 lvls as to 7. Or, will wis be alot better? I mean I can always up the dex after hitting 50+

will that extra point to wis make any difference?
or will that extra point to int make any difference?
or dex!!?!?!?!?? lol.... I'm going to go crazy trying to figure this 1 out hehe

Thanks in advance.

<~ not a high level elf but...

If I was building an elf I would do the following.
I would do 18con with the last one in Dex.

That extra point in wisdom (according to lindb charts) would not help your mp gain per level at all. Unless I am overlooking something, it seems that it would be a waste.

The dex however, will allow you an easier time hitting the next dex damage bonus. The one point of dex alone does nothing, but with dex ammy, and any other combination of dex items after that, you hit more and more damage bonuses. Also, the extra AC you mentioned. As well as, (not sure how its calculated, and if 1 more dex makes a diff or not) it should add extra to-hit with bow.

From 51 on, I would add dex till 18 base. And then I would most likely switch to wisdom till at least 15 base, maybe 18 base... And then int from there on.

Elves are by far the most customizable character, imho. There are so many options. In the end, its all up to personal preference. You may want to shoot arrows through people like there is no tomorrow, and could care less about furthering your MR... In which case skip the wisdom and keep going dex. So many options... so little time.

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If you plan on using a sword to level, I would go 18 Con and put the extra point in STR in lieu of Dex. But it's probably faster to use a bow and go with the Dex.

I'll also note that there may be a level restriction on a Bowgun, so with your 250 mil, you should probably invest in a plain old +6 bow until you're 40+. X-Bow or Hunter's will be good because they will compensate for your lack of Dex.

I have a 48 Con elf, but strangely enough, I got sick of using B2S all the time. It drives me nuts to stop-start my toon while moving from place to place.

I'm wondering what build you used on your DE. I've never played one, but they seem to be a pretty flexible class too. Mages are also flexible in my opinion because they can vary their stats so much.

The key is to go with something you find enjoyable. Currently, I'm leveling a Dex knight and a STR/Con mage. Most people would advise against those builds, but I say to hell with them.

My first char was knight with bad stats. I remade her, at level 47, she went con...
When I decided to create an elf, all I knew was, con rocked ^.^
I have been eternally greatful for that experience with my knight because now, my con elf rocks!

I leveled up to 52+ with a +8 yumi.
Yes, I know, everyone said, "con elf should use xbow".
Well, ya know what? The Huntsmen Rangers made that yumi for me and I did a test to get some ppl off my back... there saw very little difference for me so, I kept it and it seved me well.
I do agree about the bowgun as I was graced with one when a pledgemate left game.

Wind is the way to go until level 50 imo. Wind walk saves you on wafers and makes you the only kind of elf that can keep pace with a braved knight or a mage on HW.....

Water at 50+ rocks big time!

I have been adding to dex of course but got wis elixer and will add to wis next level up also.

CON ELF ROCKS/RULES/DOMINATES!
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If we were to break down the two key factors in an MMORPG that determine success/uberness, they would be: 1) survivability and 2) damage output.

In Lineage, number one above is determined by total hit points, hit point regeneration, armor class, evasion rating, magic resistance, elemental resistance, total mana pool, mana regeneration, and carrying capacity.

Number two above is determined by strength, dexterity, intelligence, level bonus to hit, level bonus to damage, spell power, base damage of weapon, and enchantments to weapon. For bow users, it is modified by the type of arrow used, and for spell users, it is modified by the type of spell used.

To a large extent, these factors are not exclusive. For example, total mana pool relates to survivability when you are healing and to damage output when you are attacking. We also know that the factors are dependent on one another, i.e. the ability to deal out a lot of damage necessitates less survivability as the mops die quicker and vice versa.

Other factors contribute to these two key factors. They are: gear (wealth), base build/stat allocations, level 50+ stat bonuses, and luck.

Players traditionally favor Con. Why? It has a direct, numerical, and observable effect on survivability, just as AC does. There is also a penalty for not allocating for Con in your base stats: You don't get extra HP when you add to it at 50+.

However, the same penalties DO exist for not allocating to other Stats. If you don't go full Dex as an elf, for example, it will take you a number of levels to equal the damage output of someone who does. Even if you eventually Max out your Dex, that Dex elf may have maxed Int or Wis. The question, of course, is: How far are you going to go?

The truth in Lineage is that most are not going to reach levels above 60+ or 70+ or 80+. The time investment is incredily high. Moreover, with items of higher enchantment level more readily available and new items that buff various stats, the "Con-Think" of the game--for boss hunting or PvP--may be analagous to clinging to superstitions.

It may not be. But it just might.

I'm thinking it's all well and good to toe-to-toe a boss, but if you can't overcome the HP regeneration, all the HP in the world will only result in an eventual loss for you.

We also haven't explored the factors of player skill, player reaction times, computer connections, tactics, party value, and aesthetics. These are also important.

I'm not necessarily saying that Con isn't the way to go. What I am saying is: Don't assume that the usual way of doing things is the only way. Figure out how you like to play. And figure how much time you will put in. Match your character to that, not to the considerations of others.

I enjoyed playing my Con elf.

I really enjoy my Dex knight and my Cha mage. I enjoy these a little more because they go against conventional wisdom. I haven't touched my elf in a year.

I'm not sure I ever will again. In the end, it's about what you enjoy. That is the ONLY thing you should think about.

Thanks Muffle for your very comprehensive insight. Ultimately, I feel it's about enjoying the game and the things we do when we play the respective chars we make. I suppose it's different in a PvP environment like Dep and LoA as opposed to Ken where I play thus I'm cool with just leveling my DEX elf coz I can add to other stats where I can't do if I were CON though there are days I wished I had more HP lol.

Have fun all!

Whether you have 100 mil or 500 mil, if you play con elf, it will be difficult for you to level until 50 at least. Which takes about 2~3 months of 12 hour playing everyday. All my 5 friends are elves and I've seen many kinds. The most efficient and interesting ones were INT elf and DEX elf. Int elves hunt the fastest due to powerful magic and fast mp recovery(b2b&greater heal). Dex elves hunt almost fast as well because of the high dmg on bow and mobs pretty much die even before they approach. Therefore, dex elves don't need to use b2b as much(more ac bonus as well). STR elf, he just quit and started playin knight cuz it's worthless. Alas, I had 2 friends and 3 pledgemates who play con elf and 4 of them quit at 49. They all had good equipments, as an weapon, +7 sayha's bow, +9 xbow, +9 yumi, and etc... I've seen them hunting and they were just too darn slow to level up. Unless you powerlevel or somethin, it's gonna be really painful. If I were you, I would play int or dex elf.

Thank you for all your elf help and also thank you for posting these questions. This really helps me a lot on evolving my character.
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elf has extra damage with bow.
if you want to use sword with fire elf, why not just stick with your DE?
elf with sword sucks without fire element too.

con 18 int 18+ and max dex = godly bow elf u can choose waterline or wind line, if you have high int later on, might as well just use wind to get maximum damage, since your heal would be strong enough.
int 23+ wis 23 = annoying earth elf who just earthbind and cancel and erase
full str? i wouldnt even consider it, as i said, if u want to max str elf, stick with DE -_- elf is all about bows yo..thats how this game was set up and intends to be