This topic is under discussion at the official forums; however, since I can't access those forums, I have some questions.
1) Which seems more effective to you?
2) What stat adds to the effectiveness of Bapho staff? Is it STR? Or INT?
3) Is it true the spell can proc, even if you miss with direct damage?
4) It has no + to hit, does it miss often?
5) LineageDB says it is not enchantable. Is that true?
The thread on the official site seems to have gotten off topic and into the usual bickering, and, of course, it did so before any resolution on the subject was obtained.
Thanks!

1) Which seems more
1) Which seems more effective to you?
- Each has its strengths and weaknesses, its a real toss up, I for one would want to have both(Missing the bstaff atm)
2) What stat adds to the effectiveness of Bapho staff? Is it STR? Or INT?
- no idea, some say more str/dex = better chance to land a hit and some say more int gives you a better crit/proc
3) Is it true the spell can proc, even if you miss with direct damage?
- no idea
4) It has no + to hit, does it miss often?
- a whole lot (but its the randomness that pvpers like about it as well as the fact that having 100%mr doesnt really effect its dmge~And i belive it doesnt fall into the magic dmge nerf~ or so I am led to believe)
5) LineageDB says it is not enchantable. Is that true?
- it is like bone, i have seen +4 bstaff on our server
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Thanks, Prom. Your info is
Thanks, Prom. Your info is useful. I'm wondering a couple of things:
1) Can we get someone who has one to actually test the effect of better STR or INT on the staff?
2) What price range are we looking at on this thing?
To answer #2. I belive you
To answer #2. I belive you can get one around the 75m range (+ or -) 0-15m
This is on LoA ~ Well thats the price range i last remember, I havnt really looked.
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70m? I would probably use
70m? I would probably use the sof unless the b-staff were +2+ then again I havent played mage for years other than a 48 one last test to mess abut a bit and didn't get a bstaff on it.
I would use a
I would use a som+dkmorph(for fast cast) to melee with at for example FI..
it will keep my mp up which allows me to use spells to kill even faster then most melee/w a mage in tow on FI
spells like sunburst/firestorm/vt
and eventually you will drop in mp in at which point you would use the pots(which u get alot as a drop instead of heals and just leech as much mp up as possible and then go back to heals instead of ptos.
and as for drakes on fi. i dont waste my time, i just blind them and i go on my way.
I can gain .10% every 5min in fi like that.
mind you i can get about .20% every 5min on 5x if things go well O_o (but it rarely does cause i run into an enemy or i dont find any mops or i stopp and chat away on global lol)
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1) Which seems more
1) Which seems more effective to you?
-Depends on your play style and what regen items you have really. I love bapho staff. Its more of a show off toy unless you really goto places like FI or RV, floor 1 or laia's room.... But like I said, depends on your style. But I prefer bapho over sof anyday. You get 1-2 procs average on any mop as is, and you will still end of killing it faster than using a SOF..... Just from experience though
2) What stat adds to the effectiveness of Bapho staff? Is it STR? Or INT?
-Int
3) Is it true the spell can proc, even if you miss with direct damage?
-Not sure, but I highly doubt it. I think people are considering the fact that, the staff will proc on someone while they are being hit, dealing the massive damage with no erupt animation. This is common and probably what everyone considers, a miss with direct damage....
4) It has no + to hit, does it miss often?
-Pvp, it misses a bit, but what mage hits melee good anyways? PvM, doesn't miss at all if your buffed really...
5) LineageDB says it is not enchantable. Is that true?
- Made of bone, you will probably blow it if you try.
str, dex, int all affects
str, dex, int all affects it.
STR: based on str dmg bonus table is all that does extra 1 to 10 extra dmg, not much.. so dont worry about str unless INT is maxed and maybe have +dex some.
DEX: Increase ER, HIT, (maybe ac if enuff added).. this a good one as mage dont get melee hit bonus, Str also give a LITTLE hit bonus but not much.
INT: Spell dmg done by bapho staff is the MAGIC part... 30 INT w Bapho staff will hurt just as bad as destroy, so u melee a person w staff and when Erupt go off, you destroy him.. so if its a mage.. 95% he dies
so overall... would rock w 30 INT, 10dex and maybe some str... and +4-6 Bapho staff (for +2-3 hit bonus)
SOF in my view is JUNK. Som/Bapho FTW!
I don't agree that SoF is
I don't agree that SoF is junk. Unlike the Bapho staff, it gives consistent damage. A great technique when a mage feels like doing some melee instead of TU all the time is to carry SoM and SoF and switch off between them.
If you look at the amount of damage it adds, as compared to many other weapons, it gives a lot of benefit. It doesn't get damaged. It adds to STR and has + dmg.
And it's cheap! Much cheaper than a Bapho staff.
I think the advantage of the Bapho staff is the fun factor of waiting for it to Proc and the big bang factor when a mage has high INT. From what I saw on the other thread on the official messageboards, most people feel the damage at lower levels between the two balances out.
So the amount of damage it
So the amount of damage it does is based on INT.
What about the number of times the weapon activates? Because if a particular stat makes it go off more, those two factors may balance out. In other words, if a mage with high INT does 100 damage with it and it goes off twice per attack but another mage does 50 damage with it but it goes off four times, the amount of damage is equal.
bstaff is VERY
bstaff is VERY random
somtimes it goes off like krazy
sometimes it doesnt go off at all
but I have a feeling, the lower the level the target, the more it goes off
cause for the limited time i had it,
it would go off like krazy on fv mops. but it barely went off during taht boss event.
But now that i dont have it, i cant really test that theory out
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the fact that i can land
the fact that i can land hits easily on fv mops versus the bossses would say that "to hit" would play into factor.
so you can test it out by using it w/ no buffs then use a fire buff + prince buff and see if it goes off alot..
dont think you should waste stats on str/dex so u can get that extra hit, its better to just get that thru spells
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I use Bapho staff
I use Bapho staff everywhere, Solo almost anything I want,
I STR DEX ZERK BW and bam ur set to kick almost anyones butt (All help when u PvP)
Ive only fought a few bosses with it like AG,AQ,IQ,ZQ,Bapho,Pheo,Ifrit and it goes off more then really needed.
Ive noticed as I add INT the harder it hits dono if theres a way to
make proc go off more its just random.
Like prom said I seen them for 75m on LOA, but on Dep your looking to pay over 110m
and I never seen one for sale on Ken.
I personaly like the Bapho Staff give you good dmg with high end proc,
Anyone I know who used 9Sof is changing because of how fast bapho staff
can kill things.
Have you ever herd of Mana Drain???? (Or is Amphetamines and me the only mages not scared to try something new and have it actully work) Cause I never run outa mp when using it unless
your being stupid and using spells on mops that are not needed.
For Drakes on FI cast a Fire Wall on them and let them taste your Bapho staff they die within 20seconds
#1 You using a SOM is stupid for one use Mana Drain bam all mp is taken (L-heal full hp)
#2 Waste your time killing with a SOM when you can be moving faster reasoning for your lack of %
#3 If you hunt Mino area they only have 5mp so wasteing ur time using MD or SOM.
I stay full MP/HP on FI because I use MD (I might be a rare mage breed) but I get the job done.
If I use Dire wolfs it normally takes me a hour to a Hour and 20minutes to get 1% slow but change of scenery.
Like fields says the higher the INT helps the proc of the Bapho Staff will do more damage.
I have a little brother who uses my staff on his mage also at lvl 49 goes of about same for
him as it does for me.
He does about 100+dmg at level 49
at 19 int base +items
(Never herd of B-staff doing 50 or ever felt one do that could be a CHA mage LOL no INT at all)
Never explain. Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe it anyway.
B-staff is just better
B-staff is just better weapon to use period. I am not a mage, but I got hit from both of SOF and Bapho staff. Bapho has better dmg overall unless you have very high str which most mages don't.
I saw one on sale on ken for
I saw one on sale on ken for 55m couple weeks ago
90% sure INT DOES NOT effect
90% sure INT DOES NOT effect bstaff damage. it has always been random from 80-140. higher dex will increase the chance it will cast eruption, because you are landing the hits more often.